Ilya Orlov and his dog friend Bublik's improvised conversation about Conceptual art, discussing Joseph Kosuth, Marcel Broodthaers, and finally agreeing on the point of Art&Language. The conversation marks the conceptual artist's shift towards the animal turn (references to Brian Massumi, human-non-human-relationships etc. will follow). Bublik is a rescue dog from Vyborg, living in Helsinki since 2020. 'Bublik' (Russian, Ukrainian) means 'bagel'.

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Camera: Anna Rawlings.